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Hi Bob,
Another video you may need to make is one explaining the Higher Self and Oversoul, as you said, most people may not even know what it is, which likely includes me in it’s true self.
Here are some notes from the Law Of One where the group known as Ra describes the Higher Self, also known as the Oversoul.
My understanding is that Ra are high 6th density beings.
Here is their explanation:
You are existing at all levels simultaneously. It is correct that your Higher Self is you in the mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your Higher Self, is your self, in your future.
The seeming contradiction of determinism and free will, will melt when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity. The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by the mind/body/spirit complex to that point.
The Higher Self is like the map in which the destination is known, the roads are very well known, these roads being designed by intelligent infinity working through intelligent energy. However, the Higher Self aspect can program only for the lessons and certain predispositioning limitations if it wishes. The remainder is completely the free choice of each entity. There is the perfect balance between the known and the unknown.
So, as we already know, they use less than ideal language. I needed to research some of the words first:
Contradiction: the act of saying something that is opposite or very different in meaning to something else.: a difference or disagreement between two things which means that both cannot be true.
Determinism: The belief that all events are caused by things that happened before them and that people have no real ability to make choices or control what happens.
Free Will: The ability to choose, think, and act voluntarily. For many philosophers, to believe in free will is to believe that human beings can be the authors of their own actions and to reject the idea that human actions are determined by external conditions or fate.
Simultaneity: existing, occurring, or operating at the same time; concurrent.
This is now very puzzling to me. So if the seeming contradiction of determinism and free will, will “melt”, then are they saying that neither determinism nor free will is a reality? That is tripping me up. Are they saying that the reality is simultaneity? If that is what they are saying, then I guess the root issue I have with all of this is that I don’t know what that reality is.
That, perhaps, is the root cause of my dilemma and that is what I need to learn and perhaps that is the whole point of life, to seek out and find the simultaneity with my Higher Self. Something that cannot be told but must be sought.
Since Ra used the word “of” and not “between” determinism and free will, it makes me think neither are real in our existence. If the word “between” was used, that would make me think that either determinism or free will was true but I still would not know which one it is. So that again leads me to believe that neither is true and only simultaneity exists.
What is your take on this Bob?
Now for the last paragraph.
When Ra states that the destination is known and the roads are known, I am assuming that it is known by the Higher Self but not by the “lower self”. Meaning poor old me here on the wrong side of the veil.
Now, it would be nice if they described “who” the intelligent infinity working through intelligent energy is that designed the roads, but I am guessing that Ra is talking about God working through the Directors of Life and so on using God’s life force to create. What would have been nice is if Ra stated how far down the intelligent infinity went in doing the designing. Meaning, does the lower self do designing using intelligent infinity without the aid of the Higher Self? This sounds to me like part (or completely) a discussion on creating reality.
On to the next sentence and this is totally confusing.
However, the Higher Self aspect can program only for the lessons and certain predispositioning limitations if it wishes.
If it wishes?
Also, I assume that the lessons and predispositioning limitations stated here are about our life plan and the limitations may be things/difficulties that were to be implemented in order to increase our learning about something under difficult conditions. Now, is the “wishes” part meant that only if it needs to invoke these lessons and limitations? Meaning if we figure out our life plan while incarnate without any catalyst presented by our Higher Self, then there is no need for it to “wish” to do so. Your take on this is appreciated.
Now the only part left with this is the statement that “The remainder is completely the free choice of each entity.” The “remainder” of what? The remainder of the “program”? The remainder of the road?
I hope that this does help with our discussion, I believe that this information from Ra and the Law Of One is correct.
I truly appreciate your input on this.
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The bits in Italics come from Ra, I assume.
Now, it is not complicated, from what I understood.
You are existing at all levels simultaneously.
- Because we are a multi-dimensional being having a bodily incarnation, I hope that you can understand that your physical body and your auras exist all at once in a multi-dimensional sense, a multi-level sense, as Ra says.
It is correct that your Higher Self is you in the mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your Higher Self, is your self, in your future.
- When he says that your higher self is your future self, he means that it is an advanced version of you that, normally you would not know about just now. I think that the word “future” was a misinterpretation by the channeller. Don’t forget that all this was received a long time ago before people had the esoteric knowledge that we have today. The understanding of the higher self in relation to “us” that we know today is a better understanding.
The seeming contradiction of determinism and free will, will melt when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity.
- This is bit difficult to understand. I think it was saying that when we realise that we have this ego/mind/ brain thing trying to control us but we realise that our higher self can control the ego/mind/ brain, the battle between the two will stop.
The Higher Self is like the map in which the destination is known, the roads are very well known, these roads being designed by intelligent infinity working through intelligent energy.
- As I mentioned in relation to a sailing ship, the higher self will guide us but will only do that if we contact it and ask it to take over. Otherwise, it will leave us to stumble along under the control of the ego, the mind and the brain. It never imposes its will on us.
However, the Higher Self aspect can program only for the lessons and certain predispositioning limitations if it wishes. The remainder is completely the free choice of each entity. There is the perfect balance between the known and the unknown.
- The higher self will, if it chooses, allow people to make wrong life choices if it thinks that the person needs to learn a lesson. Also, the higher self will not impose itself over the life plan of the individual.
That is my, albeit somewhat hasty, interpretation of what Ra was saying.
Comment:
Thanks Bob, I appreciate you taking some time to reply.
Yes, the italic parts were quoted from Ra and the Law Of One.
- Yes, I understood this part from what I had previously learned.
- I think that I have not fully understood or learned the newer information about the relationship between the Higher Self and “us” to give me a better understanding. Perhaps a video on this would help or a link to one that already exists to watch. Originally, I didn’t think I had any issue with the first paragraph, but now your response is placing that in doubt.
- Meaning that we exist as one? The ego/mind/brain and the higher self exist as one? That’s all that “true simultaneity” means? So perhaps I am right that we are to seek out our Higher Self (God) to guide us, even though we don’t even know it exists. I’m still trying to understand if determinism and free will exist from that statement.
- So, I am thinking that the “roads” have been designed by the Higher Self through God using intelligent energy.
- Now, if the Higher Self will not impose its will on us, than it doesn’t have a choice, but to let us stumble through life, right? But I also understand that our Higher Self will try to steer us in the right direction and will do all kinds of things to get us to pay attention and go in the right direction. There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding on my part. I guess what is meant is that the Higher Self will monitor our progress, and will influence our path (internally and externally to us), if it wishes to, but will not directly steer us unless we request it to. Is this correct?
Well, let me know what you think, at this point I think there may be need for three videos; One video for the Higher Self, a second video about how our reality is created and the third video about your latest information from the GWB.
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Answer for 2 & 3:
- Another way of looking at the concept of higher self/mind/brain is this:
- Imagine you were a young child (mind/brain) and imagine that your higher self was a loving father.
- Now, there would be this constant link in the sense that the father would be quietly, unobtrusively, monitoring you but, at the same time, allowing you the freedom to experiment with life and grow through experience. So the child would feel that he was free, but there would always be this person observing, ready to intervene, if things got out of hand.
- Now, in a way the father would be the child’s future, because, in time, the child would grow up to be like the father figure also.
We see an example of this in the Harry Potter books, where Harry has to stumble through life but, we later find out, Dumbledore was always there monitoring Harry’s progress, helping and guiding, testing Harry from time to time so that Harry grows in wisdom.
Thus we have this duo, mind/brain and then higher self, inextricably linked but separate also.
- As you know, your life plan is sorted out for you before you come here. Then the Higher Self is given that information. If we (mind/brain) choose to work just with our ego, we will be lost because it is the Higher Self that has the directions for the life of the person.
Once again, we see an example of it in the Harry Potter books. Harry goes through year after year at Hogwarts, having all sorts of experiences while Dumbledore, who knew from the beginning what the outcome would be, waits until the time is ripe to reveal to Harry what the end must be – to face and overcome Voldemort.
So, although Harry thought he was just having an education, in fact, Dumbledore was pulling the strings, guiding Harry through the maze of experiences to get him ready for his life’s great work. When, and only when, Harry was ready, could Dumbledore reveal the truth.
Our Higher Self acts exactly like that. That is why one can say that it is in our future because, when that ripe moment comes, our ego and mind/brain take a back seat and we start to act with and for the Higher Self. But it is in our future, when that spiritual maturity has developed.
- I think I have dealt with this point also.
This subject, higher self, mind/brain is not complicated. But we need a pigeonhole made in our mind to store the information in. Until we have that, the mind cannot process it.
A bit like having a program in a computer but no “header” information to create the space to store it in.
Comment:
Thanks Bob, I truly appreciate it.
The points you made, plus some additional information I have researched has cleared things up for me on the Higher Self concept, likely to the point I need to be at, as you expertly say with references to Harry Potter.
Something that occurred to me when you explained that the Life Plan is decided for “me” and then given to the Higher Self; that made me think that the Higher Self is also like a young child and there is something of a loving father to it.
Would this be the Oversoul that you have spoken of?
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The way that I look at the Oversoul is this.
If I am a child (mind/brain) and my father is my Higher Self, then the Oversoul would be the loving family to which my father and I are connected. Grandparents, so to speak.
Does this make sense?
It is an analogy, but it helps me understand.
Comment:
Yes, that makes sense, thank you.
So, is the universe that we experience and exist through our multi-dimensional “selves”, hierarchical in structure?
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I don’t fully understand what you mean by “hierarchical” in structure. Do you mean in a controlling sense?
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Not really in a controlling sense, although it may be that way, I just meant in a way that there is God, then The Directors of Life, then the Oversouls, then the Higher Self and so on…
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I think that you have well understood.
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Thanks for sharing your wisdom, Bob
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